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  • I created a new character to give this 'new player experience' a bit of a test.


    There isn't a 'New Tutorial' at all - you still have to beat the same old Spider King.


    However, you are offered the ability to start levelling in Coast Of Opportunity instead of Logar or Elven Island - probably Yrvandis Hollows too, but I didn't bother testing that.


    Supposedly over the years, the quest XP rewards between level 50 and 80 have been adjusted to allow faster levelling, but I haven't seen anything different yet. I'm in Redhill Mountains and still only level 66...

    Inferiority Complex - Original wearer of the Snow Combat Drum!

    W/R/K, S/M/R, M/P/W, P/W/S since 2008 on Siochain // M/P/S & W/R/P on Osha

    Everyone's name is better than mine! :(

  • There isn't a 'New Tutorial' at all - you still have to beat the same old Spider King.

    idk which spider kind you mean but even in the announcement screenshots you can see the tutorial dialog (so yes, there is a new tutorial) + there is a new questline till lvl 30ish



    Supposedly over the years, the quest XP rewards between level 50 and 80 have been adjusted to allow faster levelling, but I haven't seen anything different yet. I'm in Redhill Mountains and still only level 66...

    the required exp for lvl up and also the quest rewards are still the same. with the npe you'll get an exp buff for quests till the first class of your char reaches lvl 90 (or 80... not 100% sure^^).

  • aaaand here's a (roughly translated) list of the new bags and their contents:


    245398 -> Level 2 -> 2x Ring + 24h Mount

    245399 -> Level 4 -> 2x Earring + Shoulders + Cloak

    245400 -> Level 7 -> 7-day Mount + 1x 24h Riding Speed Potion (10%)

    245401 -> Level 9 -> Necklace + 2x Experience Fruit

    245402 -> Level 10 -> Weapon, Armor, and Jewelry Drills for Slot 1

    245403 -> Level 15 -> 5x Ink, 15x Transport Rune

    245404 -> Level 20 -> Level 20 Pill + 6x 100% XP Potion

    245795 -> Level 21 -> Venti's Set (unclear, as class-specific) sets are available)

    245796 -> Level 22 -> 7-day mount + 20x +6 stones each up to Level 40

    245797 -> Level 25 -> 5x ink, 15x transport rune

    245798 -> Level 30 -> TP reset stone + 10 charges

    245799 -> Level 35 -> Level 35 armor set (seems to be class-specific... e.g., 244653)

    245800 -> Level 40 -> Vathos accessoir set

    245801 -> Level 45 -> 10x golden rep hammers + 30-day mount

    245802 -> Level 50 -> Level 50 pill

    245803 -> Level 55 -> Level 55 armor set (e.g., 244634)

    245804 -> Level 60 -> Level 60 armor set (e.g., 244639)

    245805 -> Level 65 -> Weapon, armor, and jewelry drill bits for slot 2

    245806 -> Level 70 -> Level 70 armor set (e.g., 244644)

    245807 -> Level 75 -> 30-day riding speed potion (30%)

    245808 -> Level 80 -> Level 80 armor set (e.g., 244649)

    245809 -> Level 85 -> 100 charges

    245810 -> Level 90 -> 20x +6 stones each up to Level 80

  • There isn't a 'New Tutorial' at all - you still have to beat the same old Spider King.

    idk which spider kind you mean but even in the announcement screenshots you can see the tutorial dialog (so yes, there is a new tutorial) + there is a new questline till lvl 30ish

    Right from the very beginning of the game, you always had the option to enter the Tutorial - this is NOT new.


    From 2008, the Tutorial has always been a small area where you kill some spiders and then kill the Spider King. It still is - there is NO new tutorial.


    You are then given the option to quest in Coast of Opportunity, which is something that was added in a wee while back - this is definitely the start of "the new player experience" but there 's really been no change to the quest XP rewards, despite previous patches a couple years back stating there was.


    aaaand here's a (roughly translated) list of the new bags and their contents:


    245398 -> Level 2 -> 2x Ring + 24h Mount

    245399 -> Level 4 -> 2x Earring + Shoulders + Cloak

    245400 -> Level 7 -> 7-day Mount + ...

    Now, that I find interesting as the bags I received still had all the old stuff.

    Inferiority Complex - Original wearer of the Snow Combat Drum!

    W/R/K, S/M/R, M/P/W, P/W/S since 2008 on Siochain // M/P/S & W/R/P on Osha

    Everyone's name is better than mine! :(

  • I just started a new character to see what you might have missed. The first message says, "This is your only chance..." Click NO and it will ask you if you want to stay where you are or go to the CoO. Choose CoO.

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  • but there 's really been no change to the quest XP rewards, despite previous patches a couple years back stating there was.

    if you choose to go to Coast of Opportunity, you should get a pet which gives you a buff which increases your gained exp/tp from quests by 50% when the pet is active.

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  • Right from the very beginning of the game, you always had the option to enter the Tutorial - this is NOT new.


    From 2008, the Tutorial has always been a small area where you kill some spiders and then kill the Spider King. It still is - there is NO new tutorial.

    yes, there is the old tutorial area. if you had choose that, you go the old questline

    and yes there is a new tutorial which your newbi fairy will offer you while you do quests -> Screenshot_10.jpg

    i mean... it even says multiple times "Tutorial" so YES, there is a NEW tutorial xD


    and it was even announced with pictures >>>>>> Patch 7.4.0.3005 - Balance Patch, New Mirror Worlds, New Tutorial, Snowflake Festival <<<<<<< :D


    You are then given the option to quest in Coast of Opportunity, which is something that was added in a wee while back - this is definitely the start of "the new player experience" but there 's really been no change to the quest XP rewards, despite previous patches a couple years back stating there was.

    to quote myself:

    the required exp for lvl up and also the quest rewards are still the same. with the npe you'll get an exp buff for quests till the first class of your char reaches lvl 90 (or 80... not 100% sure^^).



    Now, that I find interesting as the bags I received still had all the old stuff.

    wdym by "old stuff"?^^

    you get less trash items and more useful stuff... even useful plus stones (not the gold ones xD)

    you'll get basically more than with 3 months login reward xD

  • I just started a new character to see what you might have missed. The first message says, "This is your only chance..." Click NO and it will ask you if you want to stay where you are or go to the CoO. Choose CoO.


    yes, there is the old tutorial area. if you had choose that, you go the old questline

    Actually, if you do follow the Tutorial, which many new players are likely to do, you still get the option to go to Coast of Opportunity, which is what I did.


    Tutorial > Coast of Opportunity > Xaviera > Weeping Coast > and so on.


    wdym by "old stuff"?^^

    you get less trash items and more useful stuff... even useful plus stones (not the gold ones xD)

    The first Goody Bag dropped into my backpack right after character creation, so is not dependent on where you quest.

    I received none of the new items, receiving all the items from the level-up bags up until level 30, which was the last one. I then had to follow the relevant questline across the Sea of Snow to get the level 35 bag.

    Inferiority Complex - Original wearer of the Snow Combat Drum!

    W/R/K, S/M/R, M/P/W, P/W/S since 2008 on Siochain // M/P/S & W/R/P on Osha

    Everyone's name is better than mine! :(

  • I've had another go at this and did indeed receive the Newer bags this time.


    The 'Fairy' is what buffs you and if recalled, the buffs won't renew upon expiration. (Best to keep the annoying thing summoned!)


    This works whether you choose Old or New after the Tutorial, or if you skip the Tutorial.


    I'm not sure why I received the older bags on the other character...

    Inferiority Complex - Original wearer of the Snow Combat Drum!

    W/R/K, S/M/R, M/P/W, P/W/S since 2008 on Siochain // M/P/S & W/R/P on Osha

    Everyone's name is better than mine! :(

  • so you complain about randomness and gf takes randomness from ppl below lvl 100 (daily reward) and gives better fixed rewards (new player experience) and you complain? xD

    Not sure what that even means, and as for that "new player experience" what is it? what does it do? is it real or imagined?? Im guessing imagined because no one as of yet can explain what it is or does. Most of the toon's I play regularly are 50+ and have yet to see any kind of bonus, so Ainz if you have some insight please share.

  • ...if you have some insight please share.

    Any new character you create will receive new level-up-goody-bags. The contents of those bags are here: daily login bonus


    The "Newbie Pet Egg" has been replaced with a completely new and different Pet Egg which buffs you, as long as you have the fairy summoned. You get 50% extra XP & TP from quests.


    Given that the Pet Egg is for new characters, any existing characters we have with lower levels will be unable to get this Pet Egg.


    I intend to take a 4th class for one character (or reset a third class) to see if being level 1 again will give me the new Pet Egg, or the old one - if I even get one at all!

    Inferiority Complex - Original wearer of the Snow Combat Drum!

    W/R/K, S/M/R, M/P/W, P/W/S since 2008 on Siochain // M/P/S & W/R/P on Osha

    Everyone's name is better than mine! :(

  • I intend to take a 4th class for one character (or reset a third class) to see if being level 1 again will give me the new Pet Egg, or the old one - if I even get one at all!

    Nope, that didn't work. It's clearly for new characters only.

    Inferiority Complex - Original wearer of the Snow Combat Drum!

    W/R/K, S/M/R, M/P/W, P/W/S since 2008 on Siochain // M/P/S & W/R/P on Osha

    Everyone's name is better than mine! :(

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  • so you complain about randomness and gf takes randomness from ppl below lvl 100 (daily reward) and gives better fixed rewards (new player experience) and you complain? xD

    Not sure what that even means, and as for that "new player experience" what is it? what does it do? is it real or imagined?? Im guessing imagined because no one as of yet can explain what it is or does. Most of the toon's I play regularly are 50+ and have yet to see any kind of bonus, so Ainz if you have some insight please share.

    since we were literally talking in this thread about it:

    Click here -> daily login bonus

    and here -> daily login bonus

    and here -> Patch 7.4.0.3005 - Balance Patch, New Mirror Worlds, New Tutorial, Snowflake Festival

    or just read the posts above xD

  • I intend to take a 4th class for one character (or reset a third class) to see if being level 1 again will give me the new Pet Egg, or the old one - if I even get one at all!

    you can level up all classes until 89 (1 lvl below the lvl when the fairy dissappears) with the exp buffs but once the fairy dissappears, you can't get her again

  • you can level up all classes until 89 (1 lvl below the lvl when the fairy dissappears) with the exp buffs but once the fairy dissappears, you can't get her again

    Aye, this is true for new characters, but if you have an old character, with lower level classes below 30, you get a "Newbie Pet Egg" instead of the new "Spirit of Adventure Pet Egg".


    Thus, you do not benefit from having getting the speed-levelling-buffs.

    Inferiority Complex - Original wearer of the Snow Combat Drum!

    W/R/K, S/M/R, M/P/W, P/W/S since 2008 on Siochain // M/P/S & W/R/P on Osha

    Everyone's name is better than mine! :(

  • Aye, this is true for new characters, but if you have an old character, with lower level classes below 30, you get a "Newbie Pet Egg" instead of the new "Spirit of Adventure Pet Egg".


    Thus, you do not benefit from having getting the speed-levelling-buffs.

    that's right, but, you have the login reward once you reached lvl 100 (to come back to the main topic here xD)

  • True, but getting extra classes up to 100 is so damn slow without those buffs! :P

    Inferiority Complex - Original wearer of the Snow Combat Drum!

    W/R/K, S/M/R, M/P/W, P/W/S since 2008 on Siochain // M/P/S & W/R/P on Osha

    Everyone's name is better than mine! :(

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